[nono1973]

Originally Posted by Intltuk

True.....history tend to repeat....esp with bros who are not regulars . I've a few encounters thru' my chionging days....and it's always with `newbies' with attitude of `I know better'.

I think what you just said is quite true. Those who are regulars to a certain cheong scene wont go around with the "i know better attitude" (or even pay above the "norm") and on the contrary, if everyone are willing to sit together to share and learn together minus the "i know better" attitude,that would be an entirely different story.

I still remembers you once said your old stories dont apply today. The way i see it,old stories repeats itself everyday.The only difference i see are the characters in it changes over time.

Originally Posted by Intltuk

I would do the same thing too....avoid ur boss and not step into tat KTV for a long while.

Lol...no one's going out with him,even tho he is paying for almost everything (except tipping),like Liquor,Mami,Papi etc...lol. To be exact,no one DARES to go out with him unless really bo bian (sometime got no choice cos he is boss). I think my groups prefer to pay for their enjoyment rather than let others pay for them regardless how rich or poor they are. Applies to myself too.

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Whether in chionging girls/joints/KTV, etc.....rep of place is important as the probability of encountering problem is less.

Definitely,bro and OKTs reputation is just as important too.

Example in my Batam trips. Every joints i visit,i would take down how many girls are left during a certain time of the day cos i visit each joint in different time of the day for 2 days. Usually i make comparison between joints versus their number of girls,like i would put bigger joints like (i compare apple to apple of the same category) :

1. Gold Bird
2. New Berry
3. Bunga Massage
4. Happy Massage 8
5. Indah2
6. Permata Indah

...under the category of 30+ girls category. By 4pm to 5pm,if the joints above that still have a lot of girls to choose from,it will tell me a story. If one is going to be stepping in late at Batam,dont go to joints that has lesser girls but go those that has more but pay more for it. In my perspective,Batam is becoming a place where the early bird catches the better and cheaper worms.

And for the less than 30 girls category joints :

1. Queen 8933
2. Dynasty 99
3. Memory
4. Orchid
5. Shellina 519
6. Blue Moon
7. Flamboyant
8. MM

...and if these places still has any girls left by 5pm,it will also tells me the same story.

OKT plays an important role too. If i hear a girl i book complains about an OKT on how strict they are,that is likely to be a good joint for me,cos i see disciplinary in its joint. And if i hear girls praising or bribing an OKT,i know my choice for that girl i book from that particular joint sure 80% siao liao....lol.

I also measure the joint's booking prices versus the number of leftovers versus the number of OKTs that shares in amount of booking fee too. Reading from past posts, joints that has more OKTs in its joints are sharing the booking fees MORE. Meaning a million rupiah girl from a certain joint is only getting 1/3 of the amount of that 1 million rupiah if there are 2 OKTs in a joint. Whereas a booking fee for the same girl that cost 600k is getting about the same amount if there is only ONE OKT in a joint. In other word,joints that has ONLY ONE OKT cost lesser,hehehe...the worst are those joints that has 3 OKTs,which means the total amount are divided into 4 parts and the girl i book ONLY gets 1/4 of the total amount i paid.

Of course there will be some cases i see that OKT will actually OVERLY MARK UP the price and according to the girls,the okt write down in their record book a lower price and the girls gets what is recorded. Example,charging a desperate rich-enough customer 1.5 million for a usual 800k girl. Customer/s pays 1.5 million rupiah,but put on record as 800k,Mami or papi pocket the extra 700k,girl get 1/3 or 1/4 of the 800k. Totally brilliant, isnt it? lol...and thats what i meant by OKT plays an important role in this booking joint game,hehehe....

Oh, there is also the other parts where if the girls are not being booked for the day where would they go to grab the extra dollars,guess i no need to spell these out again,hehehe...as this will be those place that you get a million rupiah and over girls from booking joints at between 400k to 600k,hehehe....

For reference on where to go find million rupiah girls at half its price.

Originally Posted by Intltuk

...when I was chionging with my bros...we like to do a `debriefing' of the girls we booked......it is always fun and knowledge `enhancing'.

Thats one reason why i organise group trips. In every group trips,we have a "debriefing" too. Our group trips are pretty regimental...we "fall in" to meet up,we "fall in" to change our money,we "fall in" to check in,we "fall in" to choose our 1st blood and after that "fall in" for dinner with our 1st blood info sharing ceremony...lol.

End of the trip,i need to debrief them to make sure future trip they would knows how to come on their own w/o me,hehehe...i also make some BFF along the way too,hehehe...sorry,BFF stands for "Best Friend Forever" to some,but to me it means Batam Fanatic Fans.

As said before,i have only one dick,i cannot bonk all of the girls in all of the joints in Batam. But i can help others "with dicks" to bonk as many girls in as many joints in Batam as possible so i get all the reliable Information 1st hand when they share it with me. With the correct worthy information,i can then analyse the situation better giving myself the edge to cheonging in Batam with less misses and more HITS,hehehe....win win situation for everyone from my perspective as i often share most of what i learn here in this thread too.