i seriously tink...

[NewFreedom]

bros (old n new)... need 2 be more discreet than we r now. i m looking @ several spots, spending a lot of time going thru d archives. no point starting new 1s since d old birds hv oredi written alot. in most cases, d hints r pretty obvious 4 some. but here's d prob...

so many places hv DISAPPEARED! y?

ppl r putting up full addresses n 2 me, completely dumb. fine, zap me if u wan but i will still say d same thing. if d shop advertise in papers, tats their prob because they dun advertise 4 sex. they only advertise 4 legitimate services, whatever u get, is EXTRA!!! (be it paid or not paid) even if they advertise, doesnt mean they automatically allowing u 2 advertise d other services of them. sure, we can share but it is oredi obvious tis is becoming a resource site 4 raids. if u run of locations due to tis reason, u only hv urself to blame.

if u really need full address... there is a pretty idiot-proof PM system. even though i hv no FRs (yet) n low on points, some old birds r generous enuff 2 share wif me in pte. all it takes is being polite n sum degree of courtesy 2 say thank you thats all. does it hurt? u can afford a bonk but mouth too expensive 2 say thank you?

hw does it affect newbie? simple logic.

when sites get shut down due to raids, low supply = higher booking frequencies. wif such rarity, if booking is oredi so hard, will old birds still wan to share? honestly, if tats d case i rather keep 4 myself. isnt it? when tat happens, newbies r shooting ourselves in our feet too.

cmon la, being a newbie here is hard enuff. wat can be worse than newbie sabo d rest of the newbies? is it reallllllllly tat hard to get ctc as newbie, my experience 4 d past 2 days is... NO! it's not hard at all. i m comfortably lining myself up for 2 sessions (of my preferences) over the nx 1 month. hell, i only been here 4... less than a wk?

sorry if any1 feel offended, juz feel frustrated (n sorry 4 those who are genuinely looking 4 services) that it's getting harder 2 get services nt coz of others unwilling 2 share, but once shared... sum big mouths will go publicize like NDP.

especially 4 guys who serve NS b4, dun tell me u duno d law of... "u can do anything, just dun tio caught"???

[lixiao17]

well said bro

[ShittyAss]

Be it newbie or old birds....AV may just be ANYONE of us...their points maybe alot and are old birds as well....cos AV themselves also simply visit those joints for leisure....If not i really pity those AV whom cant enjoy just like any of us.

Hotel raids, GL lor 8-14 raids, KTV raids, TN raids...whats next? This 7th mth is super active like never before sia...Last time so active was in year end 2006 when the PDMM in AMK death caused such a big hoo-ha. Raids almost weekly.

Raids are part and parcel i guess...cos its their job to do so. Old saying like police and thieves...

And after their raids, reporters will arrived in less than an hr's time. Are those reporters all signaller trained? or grey area for us to think about?

Well...its a dog eat dog society...and thats reality of life in Sillypore. Life in other countries whereby all these activities are more open and raids also seldom heard off. Dubai, Indo, Euro and States. Most mm are running away from Sillypore. Sad for us i guess.

In fact...all these activities promo tourism. Like i mentioned before, why tourists come to Sillypore and why samsters visit China so often or even JB so often? Go China every time for business activities? and JB to eat seafood and wash car meh? Fxxx la...we know it..

Do u think tourists come to Sillypore to really look at our trees and half-fark sANDtosa island? If they wana boost tourism trade further, less raids will do the job.

In fact, i pity those no brainer tourism board fellas. Pay them so much yearly to make Sillypore a failure. Creating so much marketing acctivities to lead to failure.

GSS is a failure. Compare with HK summer sales? Now IR is coming...with IR, no vice activities, do they come here really for our casino? Rich will go LV, and norm will go Genting. Now tourists go hotel with FL with the fear of being caught when their pants are down.

Well...this place is a boring place to live in in time to come.

[peachtea]

correct! just dont get caught. SAF golden rule, #8

[JoySeeker]

i think this trend is decreasing...more or less due to the pricing in GL...

[GoodTry]

Correct.... the keyword is discreet. When an "illegal" activities grow too big and noticible, like some KTV. Some "public" will sound gong and complain, and the authority will have to take some "action" to curb the activities so that its doesnt go out of control or grow too big. As long as the public is happy the authority is happy....

[Customer]

yup...like what we chinese say'' when u draw an animal dont draw the intestines"... if not we will have a hard time to "cheong " new and exciting place. Agree with you New Freedom

[ShittyAss]

Originally Posted by GoodTry

Correct.... the keyword is discreet. When an "illegal" activities grow too big and noticible, like some KTV. Some "public" will sound gong and complain, and the authority will have to take some "action" to curb the activities so that its doesnt go out of control or grow too big. As long as the public is happy the authority is happy....

Who is the said 'public' tat u r referring too? Grow too big and noticeable? Grow too big in this cyber world and yes, this forum.

Hence, no pt post so much detailed FRs...

[lblittlebear]

I think most of the time, AV would not raid unless there is complaint.

Don't think AV is so naive or depends on Sammy forum for information.

And sometimes, the complaint could be an "insider" work or such as competitors sabo each other when they are jealous of others good business.

Earlier, you can see the "quarrels" in the postings by 2 bros in one of the soapy joints thread.

[kelvin123456789]

Originally Posted by lblittlebear

I think most of the time, AV would not raid unless there is complaint.

Don't think AV is so naive or depends on Sammy forum for information.

And sometimes, the complaint could be an "insider" work or such as competitors sabo each other when they are jealous of others good business.

Earlier, you can see the "quarrels" in the postings by 2 bros in one of the soapy joints thread.

actually every 3 mths they oredi fixed the schedule for raid for which joints...its just a routine works instead of complaints...so called their scope of works!!! everything has been fixed but only announce at that particular morning b4 10am...

[NewFreedom]

Originally Posted by ShittyAss

Who is the said 'public' tat u r referring too? Grow too big and noticeable? Grow too big in this cyber world and yes, this forum

i tink he meant d residents. there r indeed ppl who cannot stand d sight of a massage shop even if its clean. it came out once in papers some years back b4, a discussion on massage shops in HDB areas n u can reasonably see hw quick sum ppl can stereotype all d shops.

[kambialiyan]

applaud you for this bro.

same thing i mentioned a few months back,happy to hear that
you have the same point of view.

See TP for instance, not one center left alive, they may sprout up soon,
but i think the point is be discreet

[ShittyAss]

Originally Posted by NewFreedom

i tink he meant d residents. there r indeed ppl who cannot stand d sight of a massage shop even if its clean. it came out once in papers some years back b4, a discussion on massage shops in HDB areas n u can reasonably see hw quick sum ppl can stereotype all d shops.

Totally agree with u regarding the HDB joints...But recent raids was NEVER on HDB joints as i belive those ah-soh havent complain big time enuf i guess...

[ShittyAss]

Originally Posted by lblittlebear

I think most of the time, AV would not raid unless there is complaint.

Don't think AV is so naive or depends on Sammy forum for information.

And sometimes, the complaint could be an "insider" work or such as competitors sabo each other when they are jealous of others good business.

Earlier, you can see the "quarrels" in the postings by 2 bros in one of the soapy joints thread.

I totally agree with u on the whistle blowers from other joints...however, without this forum, will u and me know abt those soapy joints and discreet joints? and new TN tat are poping out without lic? and how will AV knows as well? They need to check...how to check? dig every hold with their pens? or knock every door in Sillypore??

AV are not naive...But certain bit of information still comes from this forum my frend.

[lblittlebear]

For us, yes, we may depend on this forum for soapy joints & HCs

For AV, they need not depend on this forum. They have other means, for instance, when the joints apply for licensing.

Besides the above, they have other means as well - not on this forum.

If not, anyone of us can easily become AV on part-time basis and earn big $$$$

Originally Posted by ShittyAss

I totally agree with u on the whistle blowers from other joints...however, without this forum, will u and me know abt those soapy joints and discreet joints? and new TN tat are poping out without lic? and how will AV knows as well? They need to check...how to check? dig every hold with their pens? or knock every door in Sillypore??

AV are not naive...But certain bit of information still comes from this forum my frend.