Still consider virgin?

[Absolute]

Originally Posted by KINGor75

bro, if given a choice of course we will want a virgin wife lah, but wat if the one u really love happen to be a non virgin??

If I love two girls at the same time and everything remains equal, then I will choose the virgin.

I still believe that those women who insisted that I am shallow are themselves not virgin and therefore naturally will go for the offensive first.

I also believe that those men who insisted that people like me do not understand the meaning of true love have themselves a non-virgin wife or girlfriend and therefore understandably put up the offensive too.

But there are people here who are honest enough to admit that if everything remains equal, they will prefer a virgin.

[AJamal]

For all the virginity-obsessed bros: are you a virgin?

Hypocrisy.

[Absolute]

I am not a virgin but I am not hypocritical, just setting double standard. If I am hypocritical, I will not be so honest and dare to take such unpopular stand against the majority who can accept non-virgins as their life partners.

You are obviously not a virgin yourself and I believe that you can accept your present/future non-virgin wife who had been fucked indefinitely by her beloved ex-boyfriend who deflowered her. If you can truly accept your current/future wife as a non-virgin, why don't you try asking her how was her sex with her first boyfriend who deflowered her and what were all the kinky things she did with him. If you can accept all these things after hearing all her comprehensive account, then you truly live up to your belief.

But like most people, you would rather not ask because you don't think you can happily accept all these upon hearing her pleasurable stories. In that case, get real and just admit that you will marry/married a non-virgin but would have preferred a virgin.

[Slaver29125]

Originally Posted by coleman28

Recently, I asked a very close friend if she was still a virgin. She told me she don't know consider or not. I asked her why?

She said that her ex-bf fingered her and blood came out. There was never penetration. I told her that she should be consider a virgin in that case though I was in doubt myself. Do you agree?

Virgin:

Main Entry: 1vir·gin
Pronunciation: 'v&r-j&n
Function: noun
: a person who has not had sexual intercourse
- vir·gin·al /'v&r-j&n-&l,'v&rj-n&l/ adjective
- vir·gin·al·ly /-E/ adverb

Sexual Intercourse:

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
: sexual union especially involving penetration of the vagina by the penis

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BUT... Something to think about... (Taken from this website)
The Answers IN BLUE are some of my perception of virginity. It is probably not right, but... pfft...

• Is someone who is raped or molested no longer a virgin?
  Rape: no longer virgin. Molested: if no penile-vaginal penetration then Yes still virgin
  
• Is actual intercourse the only act that counts when determining ones virginity?
  Maybe... BUT How do one define losing virginity if homosexual (Girl-Girl)? Must use dildo to lose virginity?
  
• If you willingly engage in other intimate sexual acts but do not have intercourse, is it fair to still consider yourself a virgin?
  Probably... if no penile-vaginal penetration took place
  
• Is being a virgin based on your feelings, what you do, or is it a combination of both?
  Personally, I think virginity is more of a physical 'thing'. One can have impure thoughts, or morally impure, but still a virgin if never had any penile-vaginal penetration. Very grey, and very open for debate...
  
• Is there an emotional component to losing your virginity, meaning if you have sex but don't feel anything is different about you, does it count?
  To me once there is penile-vaginal penetration then yes, virginity is lost even though if one didn't feel any thing about the whole act
  
• Is the current definition of virginity, and all the social stigma attached to it, biased toward girls? Is this right?
  Yes... it is probably biased toward girls, and its probably not right
  
• Does the current definition of virginity exclude homosexuals? Is this right?
  No it probably does not and should not exclude homosexuals...
  
• Is virginity subjective (based on how the individual views themselves and what they do) or objective (how the situation is viewed by others on the outside)?
  Treating virginity either subjective or objective may just be an outlet to dissolve or dismiss guilt be it voluntarily (with or without regret later) or involuntarily (rape). A more straight forward 'black-white' point of view, at least for heterosexuals = once penile-vaginal penetration is achieved, no more virgin! Its all come down to the physical sexual act of penile-vaginal penetration.

Bascially, blood or no blood, physical acts of horse riding, sports or whatever that caused the hymen to break... AS long as there is no penile-vaginal penetration and you think like how I think, then your friend is still a virgin that is exposed to impurities of the sexual nature

My 2 cents

[AJamal]

I am not a virgin but I am not hypocritical, just setting double standard. If I am hypocritical, I will not be so honest and dare to take such unpopular stand against the majority who can accept non-virgins as their life partners.

*** I am absolutely amazed that you can proudly state that you are "setting a double standard." By definition you are then inconsistent, and your credibility is low. You then state that you think it "honest" and "daring" to expect virginity from female "life partners" with, of course, no limitations on the sexual behaviour of yourself and like-minded males. Do you actually understand what the word "hypocrisy" means? What you have defined is a textbook example. ***

You are obviously not a virgin yourself and I believe that you can accept your present/future non-virgin wife who had been fucked indefinitely by her beloved ex-boyfriend who deflowered her. If you can truly accept your current/future wife as a non-virgin, why don't you try asking her how was her sex with her first boyfriend who deflowered her and what were all the kinky things she did with him. If you can accept all these things after hearing all her comprehensive account, then you truly live up to your belief.

*** It is extremely naive to think that raking up sensitive details like this is a necessary prelude to a long-term relationship. What's important is faithfulness and caring going forward. The past is gone. Bury it. Furthermore, what gives men the right to violate the privacy of women they presumably care about? Would you jump for joy if your girlfriend / wife asked for a hooker-by-hooker, blowjob-by-blowjob and anal-rimming-by-anal-rimming account of your sexual career? Would you consider that a legitimate request? ***

But like most people, you would rather not ask because you don't think you can happily accept all these upon hearing her pleasurable stories. In that case, get real and just admit that you will marry/married a non-virgin but would have preferred a virgin.

*** Be more careful before making sweeping generalizations. As explained above, I don't ask for these "stories" because it's none of my (or your) business, because it has no benefit when developing a long-term relationship, because it's an intrusion of privacy, and because I wouldn't like it if she asked me the same question in return. And, no, I'm not fussed either way about virginity. You shouldn't be, either, because you don't have the right to. ***

[Frankiestine]

Originally Posted by xiaofeng126

sorry ts , don't mind lend me your thread and ask a question too since its similar to your ... bro over here can i confirm if you put in yr penis into her cb like 3/4 in and does she still counted as virgin ? as her ex enter her 3/4 but never bleed yet.... thanks bros here for helping e to confirm about it and ts too (:

let me ask you back...if a football only 3/4 of it crosses the goal line...is it considered a goal?

[Frankiestine]

Originally Posted by Criminalz

My mother say hold hands can get pregnant.

my mother say touch already can get pregnant....

[Frankiestine]

Originally Posted by SharkMan

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Is your finger a cock? You must ask that yourself..

hmmm what if his cock is the size of the finger...

[Frankiestine]

Originally Posted by Absolute

(1) If everything remains roughly equal and there are only two potential female life-partners to choose from, I will choose the virgin.

So have you managed to find the holy grail of bonking land..

(2) Every woman will always remember her ex-boyfriend whom she gives her virginity to. She has more difficulty remembering which is the 4th guy whom she had sex with.

Sheeesh.....that explains it...I can't even remember who i had sex with last week...

[Frankiestine]

Originally Posted by kiko

To me is very simple : If it has vaginal penetration, means its not virgin anymore!

that why we should promote anal sex to protect the chastity of the pussy....

THE ASS IS THE BEST IF YOU TRIED THE ASS YOU WON'T WANT TO TRY THE REST....

[SharkMan]

Originally Posted by Frankiestine

hmmm what if his cock is the size of the finger...

All I can say is "sad"....

[Absolute]

Originally Posted by AJamal

*** I am absolutely amazed that you can proudly state that you are "setting a double standard." By definition you are then inconsistent, and your credibility is low. You then state that you think it "honest" and "daring" to expect virginity from female "life partners" with, of course, no limitations on the sexual behaviour of yourself and like-minded males. Do you actually understand what the word "hypocrisy" means? What you have defined is a textbook example. ***

"It is obvious that you still do not want to admit lose and try playing with words. Nice try."



*** It is extremely naive to think that raking up sensitive details like this is a necessary prelude to a long-term relationship. What's important is faithfulness and caring going forward. The past is gone. Bury it. Furthermore, what gives men the right to violate the privacy of women they presumably care about? Would you jump for joy if your girlfriend / wife asked for a hooker-by-hooker, blowjob-by-blowjob and anal-rimming-by-anal-rimming account of your sexual career? Would you consider that a legitimate request? ***

"So now you are admitting the fact already. See what I mean? You subconsciously prefer a virgin although you cannot get one yourself. Of course you will deny and that's understandable."



*** Be more careful before making sweeping generalizations. As explained above, I don't ask for these "stories" because it's none of my (or your) business, because it has no benefit when developing a long-term relationship, because it's an intrusion of privacy, and because I wouldn't like it if she asked me the same question in return. And, no, I'm not fussed either way about virginity. You shouldn't be, either, because you don't have the right to. ***

"I think it is better that you continue to live through life deluding yourself this way than to accept the reality. Sometimes it is better not to know than to know too much. Good luck to you. End of discussion because there will be no end."

[compfreaker]

Originally Posted by Absolute

"I think it is better that you continue to live through life deluding yourself this way than to accept the reality. Sometimes it is better not to know than to know too much. Good luck to you. End of discussion because there will be no end."

i have to agree with you here.

different people will give you a different reply what a virgin is.

i've asked many friends what their definition of virgin is, and asked the guys choices of virgin gfs and non virgin gfs.

for the part of virginity, a person can define a virgin as someone who hasnt had ANY penetrating sex before be it fingering or dildo, means nothing inserted.

another definition most people say is : As long as cock havent enter, you're still virgin, so fingering is still ok. It depends on you . To me, i define virginity as no penetration. means fingering means loosing virginity. my definition is as long as something goes in, its no longer pure.

Girls and hymen dont match. Hymen is a stupid excuse. Athletic girls are more prone to break their hymen. it happens all the time.

and i asked friends before about choosing girls who are on equal standard but virgin and non virgin. i will say 98% of them chose virgins instead of non.

[sg_boytoy]

I still virgin

[superchevy]

Originally Posted by sg_boytoy

I still virgin

well done if u are still a virgin .......