Commercial Sex – Some of my thoughts and reflections

[Shocking_vibes]

I think ppl that indulge in these sort of relationships are pretty fickle minded. I recently met one thai gal and she told me she hooked up with some bf from sg and stayed in his home. He fed her chicken rice with drugs daily and his other fren came to their home daily cause he also liked her. Anyway she somehow broke off with this bf and i think sort of hooked up with him. She showed me her facebook and she was writing how she missed this guy etc even brought me holding hands into some pub he owns to see him but he wasn't there.

She told me a few days later he didn't want to get back together with her and she is working here as an FL even held my hand walking into the pub using me as a bf to that guy she wrote on her facebook wall saying she misses him.


What i feel is that these gals probably don't value these relationships unless the guy has some value to her like gives her money etc.

I also feel that thai gals have different men on a different scale like all people but theirs is a bit different. Like they have fuck buddies and flings or part time customer bfs whom they have sex with all of them but yet they probably have a husband or a true love somewhere out there. She gets to have sex with all of them but only loves one of them. This is different from how sg ppl think isn't it?

Is this true?

[deelite825]

Great topic! I feel like I should contribute a bit...

I think the number of FLs + HC gals + KTV gals that I've bonked are more than my fingers and toes now... probably can still do the spreadsheet like some bros suggested if i try very hard to recall cos all of them happened in the last 2/3 years. So i still consider myself rather new in this trade.

The first time i bonked a KTV gal, i was already cheated. lol.. and that was in SH. That's why i stuck with HCs for a while before going back to KTV. But again I was KC'ed by the KTV gal when i return to the KTV scenes. (i am still learning..lol) I think FLs are the best to fuck and forget. Cos you go in, shower, fuck, pay and leave and you probably wont see the gal again since she may never return.

I've to agree with uncle sammy though... no matter they are KTV gals/HCs/FLs, they are just out here for your money. Don't put your feelings into it. There's no need for pity too. I know..I've had this feelings for them in the beginning as well. But really there's no need for it. I learned all this from a gal from a HC. I visited her a few times and became close to her. After the recent closure, i told her that, as a friend, i strongly encouraged her to take this opportunity to retire. You have no idea how much time i spent talking to her... But you know what? Although she said is trying but deep down it's tough for them because the money is quick and easy and they are already used to living at that kind of lifestyle. She said that to me herself. It's really not that they don't have a choice. Ultimately, they are just lazy or afraid to venture other ways of making a living other than selling their body. Of coz, i heard other stories from her where her colleagues have husbands/bfs using their money or have gambling problems... but believe it or not, those are actually the rare ones! Most of them already own house, car, etc in their hometowns.

The conclusion is - All you need to give them is $ and respect, not pitiness and feelings.

As for myself, I have to admit I did thought about retiring coz like TS said, after you shoot, the emptiness sucks. What's the point, right? So I came up with an *excuse* to continue. I want to complete a few other races/nationalities first before I retire... So far, I think i'm still missing malay (minah), korean and angmo. I doubt i'll ever get japanese here unless i go HK. Actually I haven't tried a local hongkie too.. haha.. so perhaps 4/5 more?

BUT the problem is, i already thought of the next excuse.. i haven't tried AJ and ShuangFei... hahaha..

[PuTonRen]

Originally Posted by deelite825

Great topic! I feel like I should contribute a bit...


The conclusion is - All you need to give them is $ and respect, not pitiness and feelings.

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Well said! Brother!

I made the mistake about two decades ago - pitiness and feelings, I have met a girl from the infamous Passion in Beijing, I told myself then "she is such a nice girl and should not be in this trade.." I am sure you can guess what kind of problem I got into... Sigh... Young and naive were the mistakes. I consider myself fortunate to have fallen into this situation at the begining of my venture into the scene and was even more fortunate to have met some seniors in Beijing who had advised me.

Beware! the posting above by the Boss should serve as a good warning and advice to all brothers.

[groo]

Originally Posted by PuTonRen

...Beware! the posting above by the Boss should serve as a good warning and advice to all brothers.

As the heading says - "Commercial Sex". Anything commercial means they are catering to a need in you - be it a product like a LV bag or a service like going to a FL for a bonk. They satisfy a need in you - the LV bag satisfy the materialistic urge while the FL service caters to the bonkster's quest for a sexual release. Which is what boss Sammy has been ceaselessly, untiringly and patiently trying to ram into unrepentant bros' brains day after day!

As for many samsters' resolution to call it a day from the commercial sex scene, 9 out of 10 will fail. Why? Well, as long as you have a dick, even if you are impotent, you will still desire to fuck a chick!

Different samsters have varying levels of appetite for commercial bonks. Those who have successfully "retired" are those who have reached their capacity for it, fully satisfied that they no longer can find any thrill in acquiring such a service. But many retirees I know still "tao-jia" or "steal-eat" once in a while.

So let's just fall in love with the service provided, not the server and get messed up real bad!

[theOtherLife]

Originally Posted by colins

And of cos, feeling that how she need to serve you to get your money, and how you have allowed your sex drive to overwhelm what you would have dearly kept to define your sense of morality.

But what bro seeker said is right in a way. If you continue, you will one day find a girl who will tell you its alright to take her body for a price and that she will desire it and continue to desire you for her pleasure. Then if you believe her, your 'sense of morality' will be gone, justified and overcome. That is the tipping point for which commercial sex becomes a path of no return.

I dun think you are wimpy. A man is one who faces his fear. Many of us would have overcome this ourselves by disregarding it. Fact is we also fear it. We fear to answer questions like, will commercial sex affects the sense of morality for ME?, am I contributing to the big scheme of things which I have perceived to be contemptuous?, have I changed so much to accept such actions that I have decided not to committed?

As you can see, all such questions address your inner self. Your answers will provide you with a new perspective which you will start to view yourself. If you view yourself then to be a person who has no qualms in taking a person for carnal relief, albeit at a price, then you have accepted yourself that you want to pay for sex. There is no good or bad, today's society do not judge morality already, what matters are money and power.

Hope this helps.

I glad it's not just me.. And yes, it's the fear that I might come to accept such actions that is also scary.

Thanks to all the bros for your inputs

[Shocking_vibes]

Originally Posted by groo

As the heading says - "Commercial Sex". Anything commercial means they are catering to a need in you - be it a product like a LV bag or a service like going to a FL for a bonk. They satisfy a need in you - the LV bag satisfy the materialistic urge while the FL service caters to the bonkster's quest for a sexual release. Which is what boss Sammy has been ceaselessly, untiringly and patiently trying to ram into unrepentant bros' brains day after day!

As for many samsters' resolution to call it a day from the commercial sex scene, 9 out of 10 will fail. Why? Well, as long as you have a dick, even if you are impotent, you will still desire to fuck a chick!

Different samsters have varying levels of appetite for commercial bonks. Those who have successfully "retired" are those who have reached their capacity for it, fully satisfied that they no longer can find any thrill in acquiring such a service. But many retirees I know still "tao-jia" or "steal-eat" once in a while.

So let's just fall in love with the service provided, not the server and get messed up real bad!

easier said than done.

I can dispense advice. Easy to say but difficult to put into action for some ppl. Take being successful for example. I can give advice like be focused, work hard, be optimistic, watch out for opportunities. It's easy to say but difficult to do.


Even as this thread reaches 4 pages with mostly the same advice from other threads in the same forum new bros are coming in posting about the same problems. The most recent one should be a newly registered member starting a thread about tio gong tao in hat yai.

What about the hundreds or thousands etc of samsters and non samsters probably involved in some relationship with some fl/wl/ktv right now since ktvs are doing a roaring business.

Seems like many guys out there are unable to get normal gals not in the business or maybe they desire "happening" type of girls or guys in broken or failed relationships.


The human mind is illogical especially when it comes to such a complex emotion like love where there's so many facets like puppy love, lust, companionship, admiration and true love.


What about the sine wave explained by a bro here. Showing that some chiongsters fall out of 1 kc only to get into a 2nd or 3rd one.

This forum will always be open as new members come in to tell their stories.

It's just like a school for example. When the old batch graduates a new batch will come in. The cycle continues.

[MrHo]

very simple to put it out. Booking Fls and playing KCs with KTV gals are like Taking drugs.

Have you all ever wondered every week,every weekends or even every month. what' yo going to d wth your money?

Most of the chiongers will use whatever money they left to book girls.

It's the urge that pushes them to it.It's the desires that pushes them.

But maybe as a advice to you all. why don't you all think in the OKTs position.

How come every 2 weeks they will send back some girls and bringin new girlsandcotrol the number of girls going ?

some can even gives you specail discount?(how special are you?)

reason1) visa
reason2) because they want to optimise their profit.that's why they will try ways and means to get you back.

and some very unethical OKts will cheat the customers by Photoshopping the pics and looks like model.

and how much they earn?

after all the bonking who is the biggest winners and losers? maybe is the OKTS they will laugh all the way to banks .

its like china being infested with optinum (why ? ) part if the reason is to let the peope in china to demoralised and not to work as hard. and in the end is the drug lords are laughing all the way to banks. and why not the OKTs book very weekand play KC? They know the harm of the consequences that's wh thy don;t step in.

what i am trying to say is want to fuck don't involved in feeling. and don't be obsessed by fucking so much. girls are never ending everyday the popluations is increasing.how many girls can fuck? use the time to earnmore money do better stuffs then immersed by the viscous cycle.

[dominic7]

not gonna bring morals and value perspective into this topic.

the reason why i would go for paid sex is that i do not have to go through that process of petty arguments, whining, who's done more and who's done less.
just plain straight up sex.

i just do not understand why people get so involved with whores. thats just twice the amount of agony for maybe a little more sex

[groo]

Originally Posted by dominic7

...just do not understand why people get so involved with whores. thats just twice the amount of agony for maybe a little more sex

No need to understand.
If feelings and emotions can be understood, there'll be no Matters of the Heart section here in SBF!
If it can be so easily understood, there won't be so many samsters kena gong-tao, KC or heartbroken.
Even seasoned samsters, some of whom are professionals, in their 50s and 60s and who ought to be much wiser, also kena.
Some veteran samsters even want FLs to bear their children!

I also don't understand, but I guess that's the way our hearts beat and our brains think...

[hock19]

I would like to seek opinions on this question -that is, is there a different in emotional feelings between a 150 GL gal and a normal FL /ktv gal?

I say this because a gl gal gets a lot of money, probably more than you or me very month and cannot normally go out with clients -they can only see the clients during their 45 mins bonking time. For the others, it is their time and they can use all sorts of tricks to try to get out more and more money from you or me as their time is their own.and they usually need to make money fast in sin during their limited stay in sin.

So if there is a hint of feelings between you and the gals, would you think that gl gals, should they show feelings towards you, that this is more genuine than the other fls or ktv gals. After all in a way, the gl gals don't really depend on you for their money as they would have other customs in their line of work.

My perosnal view is that this is the case. Would other bros care to comment base on their own experience?

[orneryjoe]

Yes commercial sex may be perceived as meaningless after a time.

But note this: all life is meaningless anyway.

One can however imbue meaning into anything one does. That is the existentialist mantra -- "Existence precedes essence." In other words, it is up to us to perceive something as meaningful or meaningless.

Just started on the commercial route cos my wife's health is not good. What to do, I still have needs, and I don't love her less in any way.

[RealEstateGuy]

Originally Posted by hock19

I would like to seek opinions on this question -that is, is there a different in emotional feelings between a 150 GL gal and a normal FL /ktv gal?

I say this because a gl gal gets a lot of money, probably more than you or me very month and cannot normally go out with clients -they can only see the clients during their 45 mins bonking time. For the others, it is their time and they can use all sorts of tricks to try to get out more and more money from you or me as their time is their own.and they usually need to make money fast in sin during their limited stay in sin.

So if there is a hint of feelings between you and the gals, would you think that gl gals, should they show feelings towards you, that this is more genuine than the other fls or ktv gals. After all in a way, the gl gals don't really depend on you for their money as they would have other customs in their line of work.

My perosnal view is that this is the case. Would other bros care to comment base on their own experience?

Your hypothesis is very weak. Reason is you fail to account for the fact that some brothers are more sticky with their money. The easily KCed brother would drop big dollars on a story whereas the more seasoned and street smart brother won't part anything. If you operate based on what you wrote I think you will get cleaned out brother. My best advice is to stay away from these gals and go for a local SG gal.